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Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 1:24 pm
by Nick_B
Can we have a price breakdown for the thread of the 3646?

I'm not clear how we get to $1800?

Cort 616 ?
Case ? (Who made it?)
Dial & hands ?

A decent photo of the dial would be great too. The one provided is not adequate.

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 2:10 pm
by Thrasher
Nick_B wrote: October 26th, 2022, 1:24 pm Can we have a price breakdown for the thread of the 3646?

I'm not clear how we get to $1800?

Cort 616 ?
Case ? (Who made it?)
Dial & hands ?

A decent photo of the dial would be great too. The one provided is not adequate.
Nick has a good point here. details matter.

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 3:41 pm
by Belkin12
I had a Molly 3601 with 618 stamp under the balance wheel and rlx engravings on the bridge. But I don't feel like I have a right to offer it as rlx 618. Period.

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Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 3:50 pm
by rustyscoot
Belkin12 wrote: October 26th, 2022, 3:41 pm I had a Molly 3601 with 618 stamp under the balance wheel and rlx engravings on the bridge. But I don't feel like I have a right to offer it as rlx 618. Period.


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I totally agree but I presume that is part of the conversion process though right?
Have you seen a reference number under a Cort balance on your travels?

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 3:56 pm
by Belkin12
rustyscoot wrote: October 26th, 2022, 3:50 pm Have you seen a reference number under a Cort balance on your travels?
Never

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 4:14 pm
by Nick_B
+1 Mr Belkin

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 26th, 2022, 6:45 pm
by madasboot
Watches no longer for sale.
Thank you.

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 27th, 2022, 12:19 am
by Madantique
I think we just a look on overall, no need to mention on under balance engrave.

If it use 618 main plate we just put a detail like Cort. 517 with 618 main plate for the new owner can buy or build it with new bridge to cal. 618 (if any part are same and use)

Ex. Like some people sell Rolex cal. 618 with detail convert from Cort. 616 with Chileantique Bridge.

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 27th, 2022, 12:36 am
by madasboot
Madantique wrote: October 27th, 2022, 12:19 am I think we just a look on overall, no need to mention on under balance engrave.

If it use 618 main plate we just put a detail like Cort. 517 with 618 main plate for the new owner can buy or build it with new bridge to cal. 618 (if any part are same and use)

Ex. Like some people sell Rolex cal. 618 with detail convert from Cort. 616 with Chileantique Bridge.
Thank you for your suggestion @Madantique
I do appreciate it but I decided to keep the watches for myself.
I know sooner or later I would regret having them sold.

I invite you to visit RWG and check under my name, same as in here, posts about the background and building of my homages.
In this case posts go as back as 15 years ago.
Thank you again.
Best
Marco

Re: Two grails - their time has come

Posted: October 27th, 2022, 1:06 am
by madasboot
Belkin12 wrote: October 26th, 2022, 3:41 pm I had a Molly 3601 with 618 stamp under the balance wheel and rlx engravings on the bridge. But I don't feel like I have a right to offer it as rlx 618. Period.


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@Belkin12, no one offered anything as a rlx 618.
It was offered as a cortebert 618. Still a cortebert offered as a cortebert not as a rolex.
When the doubt was raised it was clarified and I recognized my fault but having people pretending to identify my movement with calibers that are different is a bit odd (517, 516 etc…)
It is still a cortebert, probably eton 514, not 618 as i indicated but still a vintage cortebert, not a molly transvestited as rolex.
Never had any of those, not my cup of tea.

I am not a modder, or a seller or offering any kind of services, just a simple fellow that loves old watches and did assemble a few in a time that info was scarce on vintage panerai and parts, except bad cases, almost inexistent.
Today I reckon there is much expertise (and very few experts) and lots of services and resources available.

I step back reckoning my fault, and will not interfere In anything else, especially sales territory which is probably more yours than mine, wishing you had enjoyed the show and a good day ahead.
And my watches are no longer for sale.