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Denis wrote: ↑June 9th, 2022, 10:23 am I hope this microtorch will be enough to solder lugs ..

Should work.

Thanks Yoda:)

So similar so different

Denis wrote:
So similar so different

Indeed … very close similarities


Did you know that there is a connection between Cortébert, Rolex and Molnija movements?

Denis wrote: ↑June 12th, 2022, 2:42 pm
So similar so different

I can't get over how clean that 616 is great catch.

dj57 wrote:Did you know that there is a connection between Cortébert, Rolex and Molnija movements?

IIRC: Cortebert supplied base movements to Rolex, that Rolex tweaked. (Cortebert supplied others and themselves too ofc.) Later Molnija bought the old machines from Cortebert and used them to make similar (but inferior quality) movements.

erlendh wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 7:46 pm

dj57 wrote:Did you know that there is a connection between Cortébert, Rolex and Molnija movements?

IIRC: Cortebert supplied base movements to Rolex, that Rolex tweaked. (Cortebert supplied others and themselves too ofc.) Later Molnija bought the old machines from Cortebert and used them to make similar (but inferior quality) movements.

Inferior quality? I don't think so
The look, of course the Cort and Rolex movt are better than Molly. But the accuracy, I dont find any differences between those 3 Beside, Molly 3 have antishock, that makes it better than Cort 616 and 618

erlendh wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 7:46 pm

dj57 wrote:Did you know that there is a connection between Cortébert, Rolex and Molnija movements?

IIRC: Cortebert supplied base movements to Rolex, that Rolex tweaked. (Cortebert supplied others and themselves too ofc.) Later Molnija bought the old machines from Cortebert and used them to make similar (but inferior quality) movements.

Cortébert
Cortébert was a Swiss watch brand, manufacturing their own movements and supplying movements to other companies such as Rolex.

Rolex
Rolex sourced those movements from Cortébert and just branded them Rolex.

Molnija
In the early 1920s, Cortébert was approached by Soviet Russia for assistance in establishing a watch industry in Russia.

In 1926, Cortebert was already part of the Ebauches SA consortium in which all relevant raw material manufacturers were represented.

After the development of the Unitas caliber, the Cortebert machines were sold to Molnija, who made a copy of the Cortébert's 16 Ligne Cal. 620 as Molnija 3602.

The Molnija movement is a copy of a Cortebert movement as used in Rolex watches from around 1940 and they kept pretty much the same movement design until 2007 with just minor changes.

Nothing special … just an easy peasy job today




On the left with a Molnija 3602. On the right I’m planning to embed an UNITAS 497