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Sure, soon as i buy it ! Hence my question to you because i wanted to know your thoughts about it! Cause the crown and serial reminds me of Rolex ! But Rolex pocket watches had sub second and thé seller IS unable to show me the movement !
That's why i hesitate to buy it!

I couldn’t find anything in patent databases online, but looking up 128780 + pocket watch on eBay, completed auctions I found some with the same crown. The movements look pretty rudimentary in engineering and materials, but have some nice curves. I’m not sure on the size, but surprisingly some have shock protection.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brac- ... ect=mobile

Hypnogagia wrote:I couldn’t find anything in patent databases online, but looking up 128780 + pocket watch on eBay, completed auctions I found some with the same crown. The movements look pretty rudimentary in engineering and materials, but have some nice curves. I’m not sure on the size, but surprisingly some have shock protection.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brac- ... ect=mobile

Thanks, couldn't find much on pocketwatch database as well.
It could have been a grail but hé, was worth looking!

True that, sometimes amazing finds show up and the only reason they are there for the taking is that nobody else noticed the little details. One of my favorites are are the old braille pocketwatches. For some reason when they go up on eBay there often isn’t a picture of the movement.

The Gotham braille pocket watches sometimes have an old AS 17 jewel shock protected movement, or really nicely finished 18 jewel Unitas 285 (6497). I’ve seen a few that also have Cortebert 616s, but haven’t gotten that lucky yet. Another kinder egg is the old Turkish railway pocket watches, those can have 616s in them sometimes.

And then there’s the real unicorns, the Unicorn. Sometimes those will say Unicorn on the dial, but in the back the movement is stamped Rolex.

Yoda wrote: ↑July 29th, 2023, 11:14 am

Nottingham wrote: ↑July 29th, 2023, 10:47 am What do you think guys?????

Looks like a 1920s art deco style, what's in there? I hope Hamilton or the like.

Same thought about Art Deco , but I'm afraid there is really few chances to find a nice Hamilton movement in this watch with Swiss "Brevet"...
@Nottingham
A quick search with “Brevet 128780”, will give you an idea of the movements...

It seems to me that the crown was added later.. and that it does not fit.. I don't think you lose anything if you miss this watch..

Hypnogagia wrote:True that, sometimes amazing finds show up and the only reason they are there for the taking is that nobody else noticed the little details. One of my favorites are are the old braille pocketwatches. For some reason when they go up on eBay there often isn’t a picture of the movement.

The Gotham braille pocket watches sometimes have an old AS 17 jewel shock protected movement, or really nicely finished 18 jewel Unitas 285 (6497). I’ve seen a few that also have Cortebert 616s, but haven’t gotten that lucky yet. Another kinder egg is the old Turkish railway pocket watches, those can have 616s in them sometimes.

And then there’s the real unicorns, the Unicorn. Sometimes those will say Unicorn on the dial, but in the back the movement is stamped Rolex.

Yep, that's exactly what i meant! What if .... It was a Rolex inside?!! But i know myself as a dreamer, well, sometimes Dreams Come true ( bought an angelus 240 SW alarm two months ago for 130 bucks)

Denis wrote:It seems to me that the crown was added later.. and that it does not fit.. I don't think you lose anything if you miss this watch..

Thank you brother! I am now quite sure it IS not a grail with a Rolex movement!

Nottingham wrote: ↑July 29th, 2023, 4:18 pm Sure, soon as i buy it ! Hence my question to you because i wanted to know your thoughts about it! Cause the crown and serial reminds me of Rolex ! But Rolex pocket watches had sub second and thé seller IS unable to show me the movement !
That's why i hesitate to buy it!

Anyone can pop open a pocket watch.....

Yoda wrote:

Nottingham wrote: ↑July 29th, 2023, 4:18 pm Sure, soon as i buy it ! Hence my question to you because i wanted to know your thoughts about it! Cause the crown and serial reminds me of Rolex ! But Rolex pocket watches had sub second and thé seller IS unable to show me the movement !
That's why i hesitate to buy it!

Anyone can pop open a pocket watch.....

Yep, sure, but this seller, even After my "step by step on how to do it", didn't manage to do so, pretending he didn't wanna break his gem!