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Mellons wrote:

TimemiT wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 9:43 pm That does look very close to the "pencil lead" PVD finish in those old PAM models

jrlmsla wrote: ↑January 10th, 2022, 9:11 pm If you go to the Cerekote website there is a section that will show you local shops who are authorized to apply the coating.

Yes it’s expensive, my original quote (for “a watch” was $60 but he assumed just case and crown. I had a 202a done and all in the coating cost me $90 because of all of the parts (crown guard pin, lever, screws, tube screws etc).

The thing I like is that the graphite black is as close as I’ve seen to the gen PVD. Only had a basic Pre-a style case so the crown guard is the wrong one but I can always get that done when I buy one.

I’m still getting the hands and movement together so not assembled but here is the case:

This looks great, finish and colour excellent. You are where i want to go...

The color is graphite black

Years ago, there is a post somewhere on REP site that talks about the various PVD used on early Panerai. The Pre-Ven 5218-202 and then the A-series PVD models had a very unique PVD application ... it looks almost like pencil lead dark graphite, with a bit shine. Not sure if this was the original look on day one, or are the photos we see online a product of several years polishing? I have seen old A series PVD models where you see the finish coming off at the sharp edges of the case and bezel, from over polishing

I feel the PVD finishes that came later were not the same, Panerai may have started using a different company, or they maybe started doing PVD in-house?

Maybe a combination of this cerakote and some very fine steel wool 0000 will produce a similar antique PVD finish?

From the Cerakote website:

A comparison of Cerakote and PVD:

https://www.cerakote.com/cerakote-vs-other-coatings/pvd

TimemiT wrote:Years ago, there is a post somewhere on REP site that talks about the various PVD used on early Panerai. The Pre-Ven 5218-202 and then the A-series PVD models had a very unique PVD application ... it looks almost like pencil lead dark graphite, with a bit shine. Not sure if this was the original look on day one, or are the photos we see online a product of several years polishing? I have seen old A series PVD models where you see the finish coming off at the sharp edges of the case and bezel, from over polishing

I feel the PVD finishes that came later were not the same, Panerai may have started using a different company, or they maybe started doing PVD in-house?

Maybe a combination of this cerakote and some very fine steel wool 0000 will produce a similar antique PVD finish?

Actually what I’m going to try when mine is assembled is to rub some gun oil into it. I came across this by “accident” because my AR15 has the same coating and where I have oiled it the coating has a bit of a waxed or rubbed finish and I think it will give the look. I’ll keep us posted.

jrlmsla wrote:

TimemiT wrote:Years ago, there is a post somewhere on REP site that talks about the various PVD used on early Panerai. The Pre-Ven 5218-202 and then the A-series PVD models had a very unique PVD application ... it looks almost like pencil lead dark graphite, with a bit shine. Not sure if this was the original look on day one, or are the photos we see online a product of several years polishing? I have seen old A series PVD models where you see the finish coming off at the sharp edges of the case and bezel, from over polishing

I feel the PVD finishes that came later were not the same, Panerai may have started using a different company, or they maybe started doing PVD in-house?

Maybe a combination of this cerakote and some very fine steel wool 0000 will produce a similar antique PVD finish?

Actually what I’m going to try when mine is assembled is to rub some gun oil into it. I came across this by “accident” because my AR15 has the same coating and where I have oiled it the coating has a bit of a waxed or rubbed finish and I think it will give the look. I’ll keep us posted.

Doesn't this make it look darker?(rubbing oil)

impressive comparison video jrlmsla!

There are some Cerakote applicators on Etsy ... some on Ebay. Looks like alot of that process was pioneered in firearms.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1115779306 ... ck=1&frs=1

Emilio wrote:

jrlmsla wrote:

TimemiT wrote:Years ago, there is a post somewhere on REP site that talks about the various PVD used on early Panerai. The Pre-Ven 5218-202 and then the A-series PVD models had a very unique PVD application ... it looks almost like pencil lead dark graphite, with a bit shine. Not sure if this was the original look on day one, or are the photos we see online a product of several years polishing? I have seen old A series PVD models where you see the finish coming off at the sharp edges of the case and bezel, from over polishing

I feel the PVD finishes that came later were not the same, Panerai may have started using a different company, or they maybe started doing PVD in-house?

Maybe a combination of this cerakote and some very fine steel wool 0000 will produce a similar antique PVD finish?

Actually what I’m going to try when mine is assembled is to rub some gun oil into it. I came across this by “accident” because my AR15 has the same coating and where I have oiled it the coating has a bit of a waxed or rubbed finish and I think it will give the look. I’ll keep us posted.

Doesn't this make it look darker?(rubbing oil)

I have thought of that, and it would. But removing as much oil as possible with buffing should work. I am going to check back with my rifle and see what happens.

As someone who scratches cases just by looking at them, this could be a game changer to allow me to consider a black case build...

Mellons wrote:Anyone have cerakote applied to any builds? Im going through a dark watch phase, cant do pvd and am back looking at these guys again...

MotorCity WatchWorks | Watches

http://motorcitywatchworks.com/Watches.html

I've used Motorcity to cerakote a case, bezel and two crowns. They still look great and no scratches 5 or so years later.




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A few pics I took just now. I think the color is called blue titanium from MotorCity.





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