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Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 29th, 2020, 8:38 pm
by TimemiT
I you are looking for a Seagull 6497-1 or 6497-2 .. I am sure several members have one stashed, for a much less than paying for a genuine ETA version.
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 29th, 2020, 11:57 pm
by 5ah1n
TimemiT wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 8:31 pm
do you mean 6497-2 ?
this is the original manual wind movement that Panerai used in all its original Luminors ... 6497-2 was not so readily available back then, ETA kept a tight lock on them, and I am sure Panerai monopolized most of the inventory
6497-2 = high beat 21,600
6497-1 = low beat (more pedestrian version, cheaper and more readily available) 18,000
With or without Secs = 9
power reserves on these would be maybe 50+ hours?
even now it's hard to find 6497-2 ... but this guy usually has many variety of movements (not cheap, but all is new and genuine with this guy) .. he also has some really cool modified, anodized and skeletonized versions of those movements
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOVEMENT-ETA-U ... SwubdfO1Dj
This version he sells is a nicer finished with CDG, polished and blue screws
6497 is a large workhorse movement to fit that case you are working on ...
5ah1n wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 3:58 am
Dears ,
Currently I am on sick leave ( several knee surgeries ) and having plenty of time for thinking and designing , now I am working a diver model build on 3646 mid case , bidirectional bezel non case back crown at 12 etc , I just became a customer of ETA but they stopped the production of 6487-2 and run out of stock , I am checking with Sellita and STP watch company , STP also accepted my customer request , My heart says Sellita but wanted to ask to you guys , can you recommend me some movements which you want to see in a nice watch ?
Bests
I know the seller from ebay , bought earlier some single items , but buying from him for those prices will be way too expensive
Checkin with sellita right now , its a pity that Eta stopped all the external sales. Makes the things harder
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 12:41 am
by hako
„ Makes the things harder“
This is exactly what ETA had in mind...
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 6:34 am
by 5ah1n
actually it wasn't eta who took the decision , it was the government came with the idea to give other factories a chance to grow up , sellita already doubled their sale , and some small factories are popping up slowly !
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 12:24 pm
by TimemiT
that sounds more like it .. ETA is the 800 pound gorilla ... this would give the regular movement makers like Selitta, Soprod and other a fighting chance ... especially with China pumping out so many replica movements
5ah1n wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 6:34 am
actually it wasn't eta who took the decision , it was the government came with the idea to give other factories a chance to grow up , sellita already doubled their sale , and some small factories are popping up slowly !
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 31st, 2020, 4:01 am
by hako
5ah1n wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 6:34 am
actually it wasn't eta who took the decision , it was the government came with the idea to give other factories a chance to grow up , sellita already doubled their sale , and some small factories are popping up slowly !
I was under the impression that ETA decided to sell only within Swatch Group, to which it belongs and thus dry out independent watchmakers and parts supplier. Because of their strong market position this is viewed by many as a typical cartel behavior.
Cousins sued them. In the news thread you can find many info on their fight:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/page/news
Re: manual winding movement recommendation
Posted: October 31st, 2020, 11:46 am
by earloflondon
TimemiT wrote:do you mean 6497-2 ?
this is the original manual wind movement that Panerai used in all its original Luminors ... 6497-2 was not so readily available back then, ETA kept a tight lock on them, and I am sure Panerai monopolized most of the inventory
6497-2 = high beat 21,600
6497-1 = low beat (more pedestrian version, cheaper and more readily available) 18,000
With or without Secs = 9
power reserves on these would be maybe 50+ hours?
even now it's hard to find 6497-2 ... but this guy usually has many variety of movements (not cheap, but all is new and genuine with this guy) .. he also has some really cool modified, anodized and skeletonized versions of those movements
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOVEMENT-ETA-U ... SwubdfO1Dj
This version he sells is a nicer finished with CDG, polished and blue screws
6497 is a large workhorse movement to fit that case you are working on ...
5ah1n wrote: ↑October 29th, 2020, 3:58 am
Dears ,
Currently I am on sick leave ( several knee surgeries ) and having plenty of time for thinking and designing , now I am working a diver model build on 3646 mid case , bidirectional bezel non case back crown at 12 etc , I just became a customer of ETA but they stopped the production of 6487-2 and run out of stock , I am checking with Sellita and STP watch company , STP also accepted my customer request , My heart says Sellita but wanted to ask to you guys , can you recommend me some movements which you want to see in a nice watch ?
Bests
I can find both unitas and eta versions thanks to the pocket watches. Check on them
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